German Islands

We’re back!

First we went a few days to the northern part of Germany, a region called East Friesland.  The province of Friesland proper and West Friesland both reside in the Netherlands, and we have spent a lot of time there.  The purpose of this trip was to have a look at the German side of the area that shares a lot of the same culture, history and natural beauty.  All through this area, on both sides of the border, are very friendly and easy going people.

By historical definition, Friesland extends through Poland, the Baltics and a small part of Russia across the border from Estonia.  Friesland also includes a small piece of southern Denmark.

The highlight was trips to two of the nearby islands, Heligoland and Norderney.

Here are some of Heligoland’s cliffs.

Heligoland

On both sides of the Dutch/German border the old languages of Fries and Low German are still spoken a bit, making it interesting for language buffs. The common greeting there is the Low German or Fries ‘Moin’.  By itself it’s a greeting, but if you literally translate it it can mean either ‘Good’ or ‘Day’.  That means you sometimes hear people saying ‘Moin, Moin’, meaning ‘Good Day’.  It’s a very funny word and sometimes bothers people who believe language must be something precisely defined, including many of their fellow countrymen.  This is one of the reasons Low German didn’t really survive as a language, because it is so loosely defined and very fragmented with lots of different dialects.

Fries is interesting as a language because it’s the only language spoken in modern times that has elements of old English and Scots within it.  An example of how closely related to English it is, is the Fries word ‘tjiis’.  This means cheese and it’s pronounced the same in both languages.  There is a Fries saying that goes ‘Bread butter and Green Cheese, Good English, Good Fries’.  If you use a search engine like Google, you can find the Fries language version of this that’s spelled differently but pronounced the same.

Very little English is spoken in this part of Germany, making it a bit of a challenge because our German is very limited.  It was only a three hour drive from Amsterdam.

Here is Heligoland’s harbor.

Heligoland

Here is a picture of the dunes next to the island.

Heligoland

This is the beach on the north shore of Norderney.

Norderney

On both islands, as well as the nearby mainland, there was loads of nature to be had.  The area is great for bird watchers.  As any northern European will tell you, usually without any prompting, the area is not good if you want a sun vacation.  The beaches were gorgeously clean and lightly used.  Walking along the sand you can feel fresh shells crunching under your feet that have recently washed up.  Not a speck of litter to be found anywhere.  While the temperature was very pleasant, it did rain from time to time while we were there.

Heligoland is a duty free zone, and is a popular destination for people wanting to stock up on their tax free allowances.  Tobacco and alcohol are significantly cheaper there, and the cost of the €30 boat ticket can be completely recovered if you return with your full allowances.  This made the island a little on the commercial side, and also meant the boat schedule didn’t allow for much sightseeing because most people weren’t there for that purpose.  The boat trip was 2 hours each way through rough seas.  Each table on the boat sat about 4 people and had a stack of 10 barf bags, which a few people were certainly using.

Norderney was a nicer island to visit, with a shorter and smoother boat trip.  It was also a much more popular and busier tourist destination.

As well as the islands we drove through the villages on the mainland which were also pretty and friendly.

Oxford – Please Confirm!

It’s been a little while since I last posted an update on the status of the upcoming meeting in Oxford, so I thought I would do a quick post.

Please Confirm Your Attendance by 20 August

The following bloggers have said they may attend.

Those marked with a * have already confirmed, or I’m pretty sure are going to come, and don’t need to reconfirm.

The number next to the blog name is the number of seats I have reserved for you.

Bifurcated Carrots (2)*
MustardPlaster (2)
Spade Work (1)
Daughter of the Soil (1)
The plot thickens (1)*
Joanna’s Food (1)*
Growing Our Own (2)
The smallest smallholding (2)
A Blog Called Fuggles (2)
Veg Plotting (1)
Soilman’s Allotment Blog (1)*
My Tiny Plot (1)
Manor Stables Veg Plot (1)
Fluffius Muppetus (2)*
NomeGrown (1)
A Nice Green Leaf (1)*
Hills and Plains (1)*
Horticultural (1)
Speaker:  Real Seeds (1)*

Total people attending:  25

Total number of seats available: 25

Please check to make sure the information I have here is correct, and let me know if it’s not as soon as possible!  If you need an extra seat, I can probably figure something out.  If you have an extra seat, please let me know!

If I don’t hear from you by 20 August, I will try to contact you directly.  If I can’t get a firm answer from anyone by 1 September, I won’t necessarily cancel your reservation unless someone comes along who says they want to come.  If you are still unsure by 1 September, you are welcome to wait until the last minute to see if there’s still space available.

If there is anyone else who wants to come, let me know.  If I have unconfirmed seats on 1 September, I will happily offer them to you.  At the moment I have no waiting list, and it seems likely at least one or two people listed above won’t attend.

It’s still the intention to find a place for everyone who wants to attend, if at all possible.

Speaker

We have one speaker already arranged.  The Real Seed Catalogue have said they would send someone to meet with and speak to us.

We might consider a second speaker if anyone has concrete ideas.  The best thing would be if you contacted the person you were thinking of first and get an agreement in principle they would be available, then give me contact information and I will confirm it with them.

It needs to be clear to me the person is appropriate for our meeting.

Costs

I am still expecting the costs to be between £10-15.  It depends on how many people show up to share the costs, so I will calculate it on the day.

The cost of entrance to the Oxford Botanic garden is included in the price of the room we have reserved.  Please don’t pay the usual entrance fee, just tell them you are there for the food growing get-together.

Place and Time

20 September 2008, 9:30am – 5:30pm

Oxford Botanic Garden, High Street, Oxford

Please arrive between 9:30am – 10:30am for coffee and tea.  We will begin shortly thereafter.

Closer to the time I will publish a proposed schedule for the day.  Much of the time will just be spent socializing, and perhaps visiting the gardens, but there will be a few planned speakers as well as the picnic and seed swap.

Picnic

Rain or shine we will have a picnic, so bring any food you want to share with others. Since most of us are gardeners, consider bringing something from your garden, but anything you want to bring is fine.

Also bring something to sit on, and anything else you want for the picnic.

Our room can be locked, so personal belongings can be left inside while we go outdoors.

In case of bad weather, we can eat indoors.

Seed Swap

Be sure to bring any seeds or other propagation materials you want to share with others. I will bring some seeds and other things from my garden.

The most interesting of course are seeds you have grown and saved yourself, but don’t be afraid to bring any seeds you think anyone else might be interested in.

You don’t need to bring seeds in order to receive them from others.

We Have a Banner

FoGroBloMe

For more information see Simon’s post.

Phone Number

I will have my mobile phone with me on the day, and you are welcome to call anytime until then if you have any questions:  +31 6 40109417.

Food Growing Get-Together, Speakers Needed!

Date and Location

These are now confirmed, and as follows:

20 September 2008, 9:30am – 5:30pm

Oxford Botanic Garden, High Street, Oxford

Coffee and Tea provided

Costs

I am not looking to make any profit on this, so I will total up the costs at the end and ask everyone to pay a portion of this according to the number of people who attend.

I expect this to be about £10-15 per person, including entrance fee to the garden.

An International Event

Kate from Hills and Plains Seedsavers will travel from Australia to be with us!  I will come from Amsterdam.

Accommodation in Oxford

I expect most people attending will travel to and from their homes, but if you want to stay overnight in Oxford rooms are available at some of the colleges.   I will be staying at Queen’s College, within walking distance of the Botanic Garden.

Limited Spaces Available

There are a very limited number of seats available.  The room we have holds exactly 25 people, and there is simply no space for anyone else to stand to the side or to squeeze in one more chair.  I hope to accommodate everyone who wants to attend, but may have to turn away some late comers.  It’s very important you tell me if you decide later not to attend, otherwise your seat will be empty and someone else may miss the opportunity to come.

For anyone who has not already told me they want to attend, I’m afraid I won’t be able to confirm space until closer to the time.  Please let me know as soon as possible if you are interested.

Are you expecting to come, but you don’t see a link to your blog below?  Get in touch, it probably means I’ve forgotten about you.

Is there a link to your blog below, but you don’t plan to come?  Let me know!  Someone else wants your seat(s).

I will be sending emails in August to everyone confirming their attendance.  If you will be away all or most of August, please let me know in advance so I can confirm this with you before you leave.

Picnic

Rain or shine we will have a picnic, so bring any food you want to share with others.  Since most of us are gardeners, consider bringing something from your garden, but anything you want to bring is fine.

Also bring something to sit on, and anything else you want for the picnic.

Our room can be locked, so personal belongings can be left inside while we go outdoors.

In case of bad weather, we can eat indoors.

Seed Swap

Be sure to bring any seeds or other propagation materials you want to share with others.  I will bring some seeds and other things from my garden.

The most interesting of course are seeds you have grown and saved yourself, but don’t be afraid to bring any seeds you think anyone else might be interested in.

You don’t need to bring seeds in order to receive them from others.

Speakers Needed!

At the moment we don’t have any speakers scheduled, except I plan to say a few words about what I’m growing in my garden.  If you would like to talk about your garden or anything else, please let me know.  Please let me know if you have other ideas about people we might invite, or just things you would like to hear about.

With or without speakers the event will go ahead.  If necessary we will just chat with each other, or walk around the gardens, but it will be a lot more interesting if we can find some people to speak to us too.

Sunday

The main event is on Saturday, but I will be around Sunday as well.  Are you interested in making informal plans on this day too?  Let me know.  Kate from Hills and Plains will be around Sunday too.  I may visit some people’s gardens or allotments this day.

Other Get-Togethers

Ours is not the only blogger’s get together being planned!  On August 24th in a number of places in Australia, France and the US there will be several blogging/food growing gardener get-togethers.  Have a look on Ian’s blog for more details.  If you are planning or know of other get-togethers, please leave a comment below and let people know about it.

MustardPlaster
Spade Work
Daughter of the Soil
The plot thickens
Vegmonkey and the Mrs.
Joanna’s Food
Growing Our Own
The smallest smallholding
A Blog Called Fuggles
Veg Plotting
Soilman’s Allotment Blog
My Tiny Plot
Manor Stables Veg Plot
Fluffius Muppetus
NomeGrown
Purple Podded Peas
A Nice Green Leaf
Hills and Plains

Food Growing Get-Together, Looking for a Place

Those of you reading this who haven’t seen the previous posts, we are planning a food growing bloggers get-together in the UK. I made a second post about it here.

A suggestion was made to ask the Oxford Botanical gardens if they had space for us, and they do have a room we could use. It only holds 20-25 people, and we could use it if it rains for an indoor picnic. I don’t think there is a kitchen available.

The only issue here is price. The room costs £150 for the day. On top of that, admission to the gardens is £3. If for example 20 people come, this means about £11 per person. This is of course just for the room and gardens, and perhaps there would be more expenses, I’m not sure. Perhaps it’s safer to count on about £15 per person. If we fill the room to capacity and have no other expenses it could be less than £10 each.

How do these costs compare to what most people will have to pay for transportation?

We are already up to 25 people, but several people have said they may not be able to come. I think a few more people will pop up who want to come, but in the end I think 20-25 is a reasonable number to plan on. It’s possible we may have to turn a few late comers away, but I think that’s the price for needing to plan something now.

Some other people mentioned they might know of other possibilities, or would have a look. Has anyone else found anything?

I really don’t have any idea what everyone was expecting to pay. If we are unable to find a cheaper place, does this meet everyone’s expectations as far as price goes?

MustardPlaster
Spade Work
Daughter of the Soil
The plot thickens
Vegmonkey and the Mrs.
Joanna’s Food
Kitchen Garden in France
Growing Our Own
The smallest smallholding
A Blog Called Fuggles
Veg Plotting
Soilman’s Allotment Blog
My Tiny Plot
Manor Stables Veg Plot
Fluffius Muppetus
NomeGrown
Purple Podded Peas
A Nice Green Leaf
Hills and Plains

Food Growing Bloggers Get-Together in the UK

I recently contacted a handful of fellow bloggers in the UK suggesting we might organize some sort of event and get together. There was enough interest to make it seem like it would be worth trying to organize something, so I’m posing the idea to everyone else. Since I am not from the UK, and don’t live there, my ability to plan something like this is very limited. Please help me out here with any suggestions or corrections!

As far as I’m concerned anyone with an affinity for food growing gardening or allotmenteering would be welcome, together with friends and family. I’m going to include some links below of UK food growing garden blogs I am aware of so their owners will notice this post, but if there are any others please let them know too. It’s not the intention to exclude or forget anyone. Visitors from other countries are welcome too!

I was thinking about the following:

It seemed like Oxford would be a good location. It’s central to bloggers in London and Cheltenham, as well as some other places. It’s also a nice area, with lots of things to do. Possibilities I’m aware of include visiting the botanical gardens, as well as some boating. I’m sure there are lots of other things, and I hope others have suggestions.

Since I’m coming from Amsterdam, it’s better if I stay a few days. I’ll probably come for a long weekend, with Friday and Monday as travel days. I expect most people in the UK will come only for one day, so we should designate either Saturday or Sunday for the main event. On the other day, if anyone is around, we might make informal plans for other activities. Does anyone have a preference between Saturday or Sunday for the main event?

A couple of people have expressed some concerns about spending a lot of money, so I suggest we try to do the main event for little or no cost. Perhaps on the other day we might do something a little more expensive.

Is anyone interested in doing a ‘pot luck’ lunch or dinner? This is where we all bring a dish and share food with each other. This might give us a chance to taste what other people are growing in their gardens. Coming from Amsterdam I might be limited on what I can personally bring. No one should feel like they need to bring anything special, and supermarket food is fine too. It would be a chance to show off if you want to.

A pot luck might be a lot of extra work to plan, because we might need to make use of kitchen facilities to store food in a refrigerator or some way to heat up food. We could try to do this as a picnic somewhere, or maybe rent a narrow boat or boats which each hold 10 people and come with a small kitchen. Does anyone living in the area want to volunteer the use of their house or kitchen for a pot luck? Does anyone have any other ideas for a venue?

What about dates? Since we might visit each other’s gardens, and we might share some of our fruit and veg, perhaps it would be good to do it at a time like September? How does this suit everyone else? What does everyone think about the weekend of 6/7 September or the weekend 20/21 September?

Please let me know if you’re interested in coming, and how many other people might come with you, either in a comment or email. I don’t honestly know if I should be expecting 3 or 300 people.

A Blog Called Fuggles
Daughter of the Soil
Fluffius Muppetus
Horticultural
MustardPlaster
Soilman’s Allotment Blog
Spade Work
Veg Plot
Vegmonkey and the Mrs.
Fork In Hell
Fresh as a daisy
Growing our own
Manor Stables Veg Plot
Nomegrown
The smallest smallholding
Souper Allotment
The plot thickens
At last I’ve got my plot!
Allotment 81
Allotment Lady
Allotment plots 5 and 29
Clodhoppers
Dave’s Allotment
Down on the Allotment
Duck Dinner Dash
Flourish
Hoe Hoe Hoe
Liz’s Organic Allotment blog
Losing The Plot
Malcolm Smith
Matron’s blog
Mike’s Allotment Diary
Moonbells Allotment Diary
My Allotments
My Tiny Plot
Observer allotment blog
One Man and His Dig
Our Allotment Venture!
Pumpkin Soup
She Who Digs
Sunningdale Allotments
The Allotment Underground
The Pellon Allotment Plot
Joanna’s Food
Wiggly Wigglers
Vegetable Heaven, UK