Couple of Things

A few newsworthy things have come up in the last few days.

The Seed Ambassadors have made what looks like a big update to their seed network seed list!  They have lots of interesting looking varieties.  In an email they mentioned a number of the varieties listed are only available via our seed network and are not being offered via the Seed Savers Exchange.  I forgot to mention this in the Seed Network News post of a few days ago.

Alan Reed Bishop of Homegrown Goodness interviewed famous plant breeder Alan Kapuler.  Fascinating reading!  We’ve been promised more interviews with interesting people, but I don’t know how he’s going to top that one.

Kokopelli seeds in France is in trouble again!  They have been evicted from an important historical vegetable garden, which is a serious blow to their work.

Seed Network News January 2009

Lots of seeds, more gardeners needed!

Consider getting some or all your garden seeds from the Bloggers Seed Network (blog not required), rather than buying them.  There are thousands of varieties available for the asking!

Of course if you have seeds to offer, you’re also very welcome to join the seed network and share them!

It’s important to understand people have one overwhelming reason for offering their seeds to other gardeners, they really, genuinely, want to share them and see them grown in other people’s gardens.  You aren’t imposing on anyone by asking for seeds.  Of course you should offer to send a self addressed stamped envelope if you live in the same country, and/or offer to send a small payment to cover the costs of sending the seeds.  If you don’t have enough money to afford to pay for the seeds, ask anyway, because some people are willing to send them for free.

The expectation usually is however that the person receiving the seeds intends to save seeds themselves and reshare them with others.  You also need to understand what you want.  Don’t just contact someone in the seed network and ask them to send you some seeds!  You have to ask for specific varieties you want to grow.

Different from Public Seed Exchanges

Please understand this network is different from most public seed exchanges.  See my last post as an example of this.  In general people offering seeds via this seed network are not allowed to share half used packets of commercial seeds.  Nearly all of the seeds offered are homegrown and self saved.  All of the seeds you get from this seed network are suitable for growing and resaving!

Commercial seeds on the other hand are generally not accurately labelled, and you won’t know for at least two years if they are in fact suitable for saving because you will have to first grow the plants and save seeds, then try regrowing those seeds and seeing what happened. It’s the intention of most commercial seed companies to cause confusion over the suitability of their seeds for saving, because they would like gardeners who try to fail and become discouraged!  Seed companies make more money when you go back each year and buy more.

Never believe a seed company is selling you seeds suitable for saving unless they have a conspicuous and unambiguous public statement saying ALL of the seeds they offer are suitable for seed saving.  There are very few companies like this around, and you have to hunt for them!  See the links section of this blog for some ideas.

While it’s possible a few members of this seed network may have commercial activities alongside of offering seeds, most are just gardeners offering to share seeds from their own garden.  You won’t be encouraged to spend money on other things, and you don’t need to pay an entrance fee to participate.  Nothing but no-frill seeds, delivered to your door!

Newest Members of the Network

There have been several new members this month.  Lots of people offering tomatoes!

Gardening Fool has a mix of ornamentals and edible plants, but if you read about the stuff being working on, there are more edibles in the pipeline.

Agrarian Grrl’s Muse Located in the Annapolis valley in Nova Scotia, Canada.  A great blog too!

Crazytomato Almost a neighbor of mine, here in the Netherlands, has a great looking collection of vegetable seeds including many tomatoes!

Paquebot Located in Wisconsin, USA, has loads of tomatoes!

Saith Ffynnon Farm Located in north coastal Wales, UK (!) is offering a number of seeds collected from the wild in his area, including a number of edible plants.

Blue Ribbon Tomatoes Located in kentucky, USA, Maria is offering a number of really exciting local heirloom tomatoes!  She also has a great blog.

6th London Charity Potato Fair and Seed Exchange

Press Release from the Organizers

6TH LONDON CHARITY POTATO FAIR AND SEED EXCHANGE

Sunday 25 January, 10am – 4pm
Harris Girls Academy,
Homestall Road, London SE22 0NR.

The countdown’s on for the 6th London Charity Potato Fair. Once something of a starchy event with the slightest whiff of green anorak, six years on it’s become one of the highlights of the London horticultural calendar.

Last year 750 people came to choose from the 100 + varieties of potato, swap seeds and ideas and pick up tips on how to grow the perfect crop. This time, organiser Lindsay Wright expects more than 1000, such is the enthusiasm for growing your own. “We have a real cross section, from people who can’t tell a potato from a cabbage to those who have been growing veg since they could walk,” he explains. “And they travel from far and wide. Northern Ireland is the furthest anyone has come from in person but I have also sent pots to Finland.”

Part of the attraction is the sheer exuberance of the event and the opportunity to buy individual tubers, giving people the chance to be adventurous with what they grow. The seed exchange is another draw, particularly in these times of waste not want not. “It’s not rocket science,” says Lindsay. “Bring some seeds and swap them for something else and if you haven’t got seeds, a donation to Hope and Homes for Children will do the trick.”

Volunteers from local gardening clubs and organisations including Shogg, Lambeth Horticultural Society and Roots & Shoots will be on hand to give advice and answer questions, “I am proud to say that so far no question hasn’t been answered satisfactorily,” says Lindsay.

Snappy garden accessories from wellies to plant pots, unusual and heritage seeds, including older varieties of fruit and vegetables, mushroom spawn and plants will be on sale from specialist suppliers Thomas Etty, Pennard Plants, Alleyn Park Garden Centre, Dulwich Pot & Plant Centre and the Rustic Mushroom Company.

The sixth Charity Potato Fair and Seedy Sunday takes place on Sunday 25 January 2009 from 10.00am – 4.00pm at Harris Girls Academy, Homestall Road, London SE22 0NR.

All profits from the fair will go to the Hope and Homes for Children charity, which works in 13 countries in Eastern Europe and Africa. The work varies from country to country, from closing orphanages in Romania to supporting AIDS orphans in Africa. More details on www.hopeandhomes.org .

Entrance is £1.50; free for under 16s. Gardeners, with or without seeds to swap and non-gardeners are all very welcome. Teas and refreshments are available. For further information visit www.potatofair.org.

Seed Network: Seed Saving and Selection

This post is a follow up to the last two posts.

The last concept in seed saving is that it’s very important to save seeds from the right plant or plants.  This is the easy one!

Always save seeds from the best plant or plants available

That’s it!  What exactly makes the best plant is simply what you think it is.  The strongest plant or most productive.  If you can taste it without distroying the plant, then the best tasting plant.

It’s always best to save seeds from a number of plants, in order to help maintain a good sized gene pool, but if there’s one plant that really stands out or is exciting for some reason, be sure to save seeds from that one apart from the others for separate replanting.  Sometimes new plant varieties are discovered this way!

Many people think when they plant seeds for something all the plants will grow to be exactly the same, but this is only true with (commercial) f1 hybrid plants.  If you’re growing your own self saved seeds, seeds saved in another garden or purchased OP or heirloom seeds, there will always be small differences in the plants.  Perhaps most of these differences will be too small to notice but often there will be good or bad differences that stand out from the others.  It’s very important to preserve the good and discard the bad!

All plants have a sort of genetic drift over time, that left on it’s own will result in plants that are less productive with an accumulation of undesirable traits.

In fact most varieties need periodic ‘grow outs’, where large numbers of plants are grown and seeds selectively saved, in order to clean them up and revitalize them.  By doing this a litte bit in your garden as you go along, you help keep the variety healthy.

DIY plant breeding by selection!

While all plants have chance genetic variations from time to time, plant breeders intentionally create new varieties by cross pollinating two or more plants and creating hybrids.  Once this is done, the genetics of the plants become unstable for several generations.  Arguably the first few generations more plant breeding skill is needed because this is when selection is made for very specific traits.

After the first few generations the basic plant is there, with the traits the plant breeder choose, but the plants are still somewhat unstable.  This is an ideal time for you to take the plant into your garden and finish off the breeding!  At this point the number of chance genetic variations is much higher than usual, so it’s much easier for you to grow a few plants in your garden and choose your favorites to save seeds from.  In this way, you develop your own variety custom made for your own garden.

I’m currently aware of two plant breeders offering plants at this stage:

Ben of Real Seeds

Alan of Hip-Gnosis Seed Development

I’m sure there are others around offering similar seeds, so don’t be afraid to look around the Internet yourself.

Seed Network: Outbreeding and Inbreeding Depression

This post is simply a follow up from the last post.

I think confusion over cross-pollination and inbreeding depression are what lead most people to give up on seed saving, but it’s really not a difficult concept!  It really comes down to what Real Seeds say in their seed saving guide:

Do your plants breed in groups?

If yes, then you need to make sure the group is large enough and distinct groups are isolated from one another (these two concepts always go together).  If no, than you have a lot less to worry about when you save seeds.

If your plants breed in groups, then they are referred to as outbreeding plants.  Somehow the pollen from one plant travels to nearby plants, usually by way of insects or the wind. Plants that breed in groups are genetically predisposed to needing a large gene pool to stay healthy.

If your plants do not breed in groups, they are referred to as inbreeding plants.  Inbreeding plants usually have entirely self-contained flowers with both male and female elements, the pollen doesn’t leave the plant and they pollinate themselves.  These kinds of plants are genetically predisposed to being tolerant of a small gene pool.

The only slightly confusing part of all of this is that nature is not usually so kind as to give us something black and white, and there are lots of in between situations.  Plants are usually referred to as mostly inbreeding or mostly outbreeding.

Inbreeding Depression

If you save seeds from plants that breed in groups, with too small of a group, you will eventually have problems with inbreeding depression.  This can result in plants that are no longer suitable for growing, but it often takes a number of generations for these problems to emerge.

This can be fine if you’re only saving seeds for your self, and only intend to grow them for a couple of generations.  On the other hand, this can be a serious problem if you share the seeds with someone else who is unaware of the problem.

Plants that do not breed in groups do not develop this problem as easily, but it’s always a good idea to save seeds from a couple of plants to help avoid the problem.

Start with inbreeding plants

When you begin seed saving, you should start with plants that are nearly or totally inbreeding and therefore do not need to breed in a group with nearby plants and do not often accidentily cross pollinate with others.

Popular examples of this are tomatoes, beans and peas.