Garlic Rust and Manure Again – Some Conclusions

Almost a month ago I made a post on this topic, and I asked people to let me know what their personal experiences were. As well as making the post, I sent out some emails and I had some previous discussions with people on the subject. In total I got information from 10 garlic growers all over the world, including myself.

One of the first things I noticed was initially I didn’t get any response from anyone in the US growing garlic, and I had to send some emails and pose the question directly to some garlic growers there. It turns out the reason I didn’t get much reaction from them is garlic rust is just not much of an issue in that region. Rust is only present in a few parts of California and Arizona, and otherwise not in North America. The information I have suggests it is also not present in New Zealand.

It is not possible to draw solid conclusions from the information people sent me. Manure was used from a variety of different animals, at different times in the garden cycle, sometimes it was used fresh and sometimes composed or aged first for different amounts of time.

Under these circumstances, all it’s possible to do is try to look at everything everyone sent me in the broadest and hopefully open minded of ways, and give my opinion about what it all meant in a very unscientific way. In this spirit, what I can say is that with a few exceptions most people who lived in an area where rust was a problem and used manure on their garlic experienced serious rust, and those who didn’t use manure the rust was much less serious.

In addition, a garlic grower in the US send me a link to this publication from the Oregon State University that most importantly says too much nitrogen in your garden can stress the plants and make garlic rust worse.

Growing up in the US I have always been told most home gardens don’t need anything added to them except recycled plant material in the form of compost. You should always rotate your crops, but even the most poorly planned rotation schemes will generally keep nutrients balanced in your garden as long as you are also adding some compost.

It is possible, but not likely, that your garden is lacking some nutrient or combination of nutrients. Unless you know this from a soil test or some other way, you should not add any kind of fertilizer or soil conditioner, organic or otherwise, because you risk upsetting the natural balances in your garden and stressing your plants.

Adding fresh manure (or chemical fertilizers) can be a particular problem because the nitrogen it contains is primarily soluble nitrogen. Naturally occurring nitrogen is usually fixed. The main difference is soluble nitrogen is absorbed much more quickly by the plants (and in this way can easily kill them), whereas plants tend to absorb fixed nitrogen only as it’s needed. This quick absorption of the nitrogen can make the plants grow fast giving us the feeling we are feeding them and making them healthy, when in fact we can be damaging them. The same thing is true with phosphorus, because there are fast and slow acting versions of it. The fast acting versions of the phosphorus can give you similar problems as with soluble nitrogen.

This is what is sometimes referred to as feeding your plants instead of feeding your soil. It’s always better to feed your soil by adding things like compost or growing nitrogen fixing plants, then it is to think along the lines of vitamins and feed your plants NPK (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium) fertilizers.

For farmers the situation is different, because they often have commercial reasons why they don’t rotate their crops, and they have to deal with economic realities requiring cosmetics and yield on a cost basis. Farmers also usually use commercial varieties of crops which often require special applications of fertilizers and pesticides. Farmers also often have animals and need a way to deal with the waste. We grow things differently and under different circumstances in our gardens.

This year I have purchased a Soil Testing Kit, and I hope to use it to get some information about my garden. I am certain soil testing will not be the end of the story. Nutrients in your garden can vary greatly from spot to spot and season to season, and is also very dependent on what fertilizers have been used in the past as well as what plants have been grown. At the same time, I hope testing the soil will give me an idea if there are any serious problems. I’ll be posting about my results.

Søren and I have been discussing this in email, and he has pointed out there are other ways besides chemical tests to determine if there are nutrient imbalances in your garden. Experienced gardeners can tell just by the way certain plants grow.

For example, you can tell by how brown your garlic gets if you have too much nitrogen in your garden!

Bare Bones Gardener posted not too long ago about using hydrangeas to tell if your soil is acidic or not.

I hope some more people do posts about these kinds of plants, because in the long run this is obviously a better solution than a chemical soil test.

Our Daily Bread

Misshawthorn at Mustardplaster posted a few days ago about this film.  Indeed as she says, if you still have any romantic notions about where our food comes from, they will be gone after watching this film.  It’s rare, and not at all pretty, to get a glimpse inside the inner workings of factory farms in this way.  Mostly cameras, journalists and film makers are not welcome.

If you have a strong stomach and are interested in the truth about your food, this is a film not to be missed.

Hawaii Aspartame Bill Update

House Bill 2680 and Senate Bill 2506 are now being considered by the Hawaiian legislature. Both these bills must clear their respective health committees, and your help is needed!

The New Mexican attempts to ban aspartame failed because the bills died in committee.

Regardless of who you are, or where you live, consider sending the Hawaiian congresspeople an email, calling them or doing both. I’ll make some suggestions here on how to write an email and what to say. The most important thing is this has to be done quickly! I’m already several days late in making this post, decisions on these bills could be made at any minute, and almost certainly by the end of the week. Your email can be as long as you want, but a couple of sentences is enough if that’s all you want to say.

For everyone reading this who lives outside of Hawaii, let’s let the Hawaiian legislature know people all around the world are watching them!

Instead of saying ‘Hi’, ‘Dear’ or whatever, you should precede the name of the congressperson with ‘To The Honorable …’, possibly including their title and position, followed by a comma or colon. For example, ‘To The Honorable Senator David Y. Ige Chairman of Senate Health Committee:’ or shortened to ‘To The Honorable David Y. Ige:’.

Within the first few sentences of your email you should state your position clearly. For example, ‘I am writing to urge your support of Senate Bill 2506’ or ‘I ask you to please put your support behind recent measures to ban the food additive aspartame in the state of Hawaii’.

After this you should write something personal. You might include some of the following:

  • You or someone you know has been poisoned by aspartame.
  • The US Food and Drug Administration approval of the additive was a failure, and illegal.
  • Cover ups or apparent cover ups of scientific studies which show aspartame has killed laboratory rats and causes cancer.
  • Among other chemicals aspartame is metabolised to methyl alcohol and formaldehyde, a known neurotoxin and carcinogen. These have no place in our food supply regardless of level of concentration.
  • People are being misled by advertising campaigns that suggest there are health benefits to aspartame, when if fact these do not exist. In particular there is no truth to the idea that it helps you lose weight.
  • The list of known or suspected health problems is very long and complicated, and rather than waiting for these health problems to be painstakingly proved one at a time, it should be the responsibility of the aspartame manufactures to prove their product is safe, something they have not done. In the meantime, it should not remain on the market.

Feel free to add to this list with your own research, it’s easy to find a lot of information on the Internet on this subject. There are several posts on this blog to read through.

Finally be sure to include something about yourself and where you live.

Make sure to be polite in your email! Never make any personal attacks against a person or company. Also be sure to emphasise health concerns for Hawaiians, after all this is a measure intended to protect their health.

Thanks for caring about this, and remember please be prompt!

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SENATE:

David Y. Ige Chairman of Senate Health Committee
16th Senatorial District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 215
415 South Beretania Street
Honolulu, HI 96813
phone 808-586-6230; fax 808-586-6231
E-mail sendige@Capitol.hawaii.gov

Carol Fukunaga, Senator, Vice Chair
11th Senatorial District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 216
415 South Beretania Street
Honolulu, HI 96813
phone 808-586-6890; fax 808-586-6899
e-mail: senfukunaga@Capitol.hawaii.gov

HOUSE HEALTH COMMITTEE:

Josh Green, M.D., Chair
6th Representative District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 327
415 South Beretania Street
Honolulu, HI 96813
phone 808-586-9605; fax 808-586-9608
From the Big Island, toll free 974-4000 + 69605
E-mail repgreen@Capitol.hawaii.gov

John Mizuno, Vice Chair
30th Representative District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 436
415 South Beretania Street
Honolulu, HI 96813
phone 808-586-6050; fax 808-586-6051
E-mail repmizuno@Capitol.hawaii.gov

Tonopah Rob’s Vegetable Farm

I always like to draw attention to both new gardening/farming related blogs as well as local businesses. Tonopah Rob’s Vegetable Farm is both. Both his farm and his own vegetable stand are located just outside of Phoenix, Arizona. His emphasis is 100% natural farming (better than organic), together with interesting vegetable varieties and good prices. As well as direct sale of vegetables, he also offers a CSA plan where you buy vegetables in advance at a discount.

If you live in or near Phoenix, I would say his vegetable stand would be worth a visit. As I understand it, he also gives tours of his farm.

For the rest of us, he is a new face to welcome to the blogging community.