Margarida of the Portuguese Seed Savers recently sent an email to a mailing list I’m on, telling everyone about the visit to their country by the founders of the Australian Seedsavers. One of the coordinators of the Australian organization is Kate, known to some of you because she has a blog and visited some of us in Europe too.

Anyway, the Australian Seedsavers met more than 400 people in Portugal. They visited food gardens at several locations and taught workshops on collecting and saving seeds, traditional plant varieties, edible seeds, permaculture, activism and kitchen gardens in schools.

You can read more about this in Portuguese here, or in English here.

This is the English version, and they’ve promised to make versions in other languages as time permits.  Especially as someone who participated, it’s really nice to watch the film and think back on a great weekend, with great people, that so many worked so hard to organize.

Untitled from sab inee on Vimeo.

Since he’s recently moved to the Netherlands he’s now writing a lot about the country from the point of view as an immigrant.  At the moment, he’s very interested in exploring Dutch customs and traditions.  He’s also travelled other places and written about those too.

I often don’t write much about living in the Netherlands.  For this reason I like to recommend other blogs with this kind of material.  I hope you have a look at his blog, and maybe leave a comment or two…

A few Dutch cities with particularly dangerous and complicated intersections have apparently pretty successfully implemented the ‘hands off’ approach, and removed all signals and warning signs.  This is in the theory that everyone approaching a dangerous situation tends to see it, slow down and be more careful.  Apparently having too many signs is a distraction.  A lot of attention has been paid to these recently.

Anyway, the question comes up from time to time, how did the Dutch get their amazing network of bicycle paths, which can be found everywhere in the country?  If you’re like me perhaps you might think it’s just a natural thing, because the country is so flat or because cycling is so popular.  Actually, there’s a story about this, and a lesson to be learned.  Here’s a video I found recently.

A number of Tom’s tomato and potato growing trials are hosted by Chinook Farms CSA, in western Washington State.  As it turned out during the first evening of my visit a number of grain related presentations and demonstrations were hosted onsite.

Western Washington isn’t an area with a lot of grain farms.  It’s mostly considered unsuitable for grains, but Eric Fritch and his wife who run Chinook Farms CSA are trying to change that.  They feel there is a market in the area for small scale artesian grains to be grown, and in effect they are trying to get grain farming in the area started from scratch.

Their farmland previously had cedar trees, I guess grown for lumber or other wood materials.  These were recently cleared to make room for the farm, but this left the ground very nitrogen poor.  Grains need nitrogen in order to build up protein in the grain.  Grains need a minimum protein content to be suitable for breads, and without enough protein the grains can only be sold as animal feed.

However, a high nitrogen fertilizer given too early in the plant life-cycle of the grains, will result in more seed heads and poorer quality grain.  Therefore if fertilizer is to be added, it has to be added later, after the seed heads have formed.  Part of these trials was therefore to test when and how much nitrogen to apply and at what stage in plant development.  This is why you see this so clearly displayed on the signs.

One of the problems discussed during this evening’s presentations was a lack of locally available grain processing equipment, especially suited for small scale production.

They demonstrated the combine used on the farm, something that was bought used for around US$4000, I think.  It was pointed out that anyone trying to do something with grains on a less-than-farm scale, wouldn’t be able to use something like that.  For example, someone with a large suburban lot garden.  How are you going to get something like that up your driveway?

It turns out there are smaller combines available on the market, but the cost is roughly 10 times that of the larger one and they have to be imported from Italy.  Since such a machine would only be used for a few hours per year, it would be a hard purchase to justify for the average person.

Also discussed was the need for grain processing equipment like hullers, which also have similar high costs together with a relatively few number of hours of use per year.

It all makes growing grains on a small scale very expensive, unless a number of farmers and small scale growers work together and share costs.

A combine has 1 million moving parts, and makes quite a bit of noise and stirs up a lot of dust as it goes!

One of the things Tom and I talked about was his interest in getting into breeding of grains.  In particular, he talked about the problems of getting old varieties of grains out of gene banks.

If you make a request for a sample of an old grain from a genebank, as a rule they will only give you a few grams.  If you grow this sample, after the first year if all goes well, you’ll probably have several hundred grams.  If you regrow this, a few kilograms after the second year.  So it won’t be until the 3rd or even 4th year of regrowing these samples that you will have enough to do a proper trial, and if you have a crop failure in the meantime you have to start over.

Doing these initial plantings and replantings is quite expensive and labor intensive.  It’s requires a lot of personal care and attention, and like I talked about above involves a lot of short term use of expensive equipment, as well as probably a lot of manual harvesting with a scythe.

For older varieties that can be purchased in bulk, and there are a few of these, this is a possible alternative.  Most of the older varieties however are not available for bulk purchase, and neither is it economically feasible to make these available for sale.

If someone doesn’t take it upon themselves to do or fund these initial grow-outs of old grain varieties, it won’t be possible in 5-10 years time to be able to do trials and commercial scale plantings of old grain varieties.  This is just a fact.

Certainly one of the highlights of my recent visit to the US was seeing Tom Wagner, and some of his trial gardens.

I spent most of two days with Tom, and while I saw so much and spent a lot of time talking with Tom, I have two main sets of pictures in my camera, so I will split these over two posts.

This first post is on the various lines of tomatoes I saw.  Wow, Tom is really working on a number of exciting lines of tomatoes!

Tom has been doing a lot of work recently with both blue tomatoes and blight resistance, as well as lots of other things like his well known Green Zebra tomato and related lines and crosses.

One of the things you may notice in these pictures of blue tomatoes, are the degree of blue color.  One of the things I find interesting about the blue color, is it’s primarily a reaction to sunlight that the tomatoes turn blue.  So, if the tomatoes have this gene, they won’t develop much of the color unless the fruit itself is exposed to a lot of light.

Another characteristic of the blue is it protects the tomatoes against sunscald!  I’ve started to notice sunscald on my tomatoes over the last couple of years, and I think it’s the result of thinning ozone over Europe.  This is the first I’ve heard of tomatoes being resistant to sunscald, and I think this is the kind of trait that could become important as climate change becomes more of a reality.

The blue lines are also rich in anthocyanins, and probably other nutrients, which are increasingly being lost in our modern diet lacking in colors.

In my opinion, this was one of the more exciting lines Tom was working on, a blue cherry tomato.  Rich in anthocyanins, and well suited for making a sort of dried tomato-raisin as well as sauces and other things.

Here’s a blue line that still has a few undesirable genes…  Would you buy a tomato that had devil’s horns?  I think this is one of the earlier blue lines Tom is working with.

One of the things I was astonished at during my recent trip to the US were bank fees.  At least in the Washington/Oregon area, and I assume the rest of the US as well, they are everywhere!

Since my bank has some fees when I use my bank (ATM) card or credit card in the US, I was seeing fees added to fees, and it really added up!  During the 10 days we were there, we probably paid US$50 in bank fees alone.  It was a standard $3 to take a maximum of $300 from a cash machine (ATM).  Paying with a credit card often cost an extra dollar or two, especially to fill the tank in my car, and 45 cents or so extra for an ATM card.

From my bank, there were no direct fees to use a credit card, but on currency conversion I lost a few percent.  My bank charges about an initial $2 or so to use a ATM card in the US, plus a percentage, plus a few percent for currency conversion.  Including fees on each end, it cost about $5 to make a $50 purchase with my ATM card!

I could escape the fees on the US side by making a supermarket purchase with an ATM card, and asking for cash back, but I still paid my own bank fees for this.  In general, the cheapest way was for me to pay for things with a credit card, where I would only pay a few percent for the currency conversion.

One of the things I found very annoying was the cash machines would only give me $300.  If we were able to get $500 or even $1000 in one go for our $3 fee, we would have been able to get enough cash for our whole trip at the start and saved a lot of fees.

Here in Amsterdam, I can get €1000 (about $1300) in one go, if I use a cash machine from my own bank.  I’m not sure what these machines will give to foreign cards, but perhaps it’s closer to the $300 limit in the US.  I don’t think any local machines charge any fees for foreign cards, but I could be mistaken.

In any event, I don’t pay any fees to use any cash machine to withdraw euros, anywhere in Europe.  I also don’t pay any fees for an ATM card purchase.  I do pay a fee of about $25 per year on my bank account.

In the US of course banks make a lot of fees with overdraft or returned check charges.  This is where you pay for something with a check, and there are not enough funds in your account.  These fees are really exorbitant, and we don’t have these here.  By now all payments are electronic, we don’t use checks anymore, and if you don’t have enough funds the payment simply doesn’t go through.  Generally here you negotiate an overdraft limit with your bank, for this you only pay interest for the days your balance remains negative and otherwise no fees.

A few years ago I did see one ATM machine here in a McDonalds saying it charged a €2 fee.  This is the only machine I have ever seen in the Netherlands with a fee notice on it.  I didn’t see anyone using it that day, and I haven’t been back since so I don’t know if it’s still there.  I doubt they got much business, and I suspect under new EU regulations this isn’t legal anymore.

Currencies

As useful currencies, the US dollar and Euro have diverged in a way.

When the Euro was introduced, the value of the dollar and Euro were pretty close to 1 to 1 in terms of exchange rate.  In particular since Obama came to power, he made some policy decisions that led to a weakening of the US dollar.  For what it’s worth, I think he probably made the right decision at the time, but it does mean things have become a lot more expensive in the US and the exchange rate has fallen.  In fact the value of the US dollar on international markets has been on a decline for some time.  At the same time, the paper and coin currency hasn’t been updated to reflect this!

In my opinion, the dollar has become a really difficult currency for day to day use.  It’s very annoying for example to count $1 bills and pennies.  There is the long running debate over the $1 coin in the US, and really I think the time has come to start thinking about a $5 coin instead or in addition.  The usefulness of the penny ended decades ago, and it’s really time to get rid of that too maybe even together with the nickel.  Is it time to simply drop a zero off the end of the US currency, and reissue notes and coins in the same denominations?  It would be really handy if ATMs dispensed bills larger than 20s, and $100 as the largest note does not really fit in well with international standards.  In fact, maybe it’s time for a complete overhaul and rethink of the currency design.  These ergonomics are probably why most transactions these days in the US seem to be made with plastic.

On the other hand, the Euro has probably increased in value more than they expected at the time of issue, and has some problems because of it’s high value.

There are a number of cash machines in Amsterdam that will not dispense notes smaller than €50, which is about US$65.  You don’t make any friends here if you show up first thing in the morning at a farmers market with a €50 note in your hand.  Generally the stand operators simply can’t give change for them, until they’ve had a chance to collect some smaller money from other customers.  They can be a problem to spend other places as well.

The €500 note (worth about $670) also turned into a bit of a disaster for Europe, and even the €100 note (worth about $135) is a little difficult to get or use.

When first introduced, the €500 note disappeared as fast as they could print them.  Even now, they aren’t completely sure where they all went.  The last I heard they think almost half of them are in Spain.  When it was introduced, people exchanged it with their hoards of $100 notes.  It became the black market currency of choice.  With the €500 notes, it’s possible to carry something approaching $20,000 in a space the size of a cigarette package, making it very easy to carry over international boarders in large amounts.  After a year or so of printing them as fast as they could, only to see them vanish, I think they finally decided not to put any more into circulation.  There are now about 3 of these in circulation for every EU citizen.  They are extremely difficult to get, and if you have one your only option is probably to take it to a bank because I don’t think anyone else will accept it.

In Oxford we will have other speakers and Tom will have much less time to talk and explain his breeding efforts.  In addition, if you attend both days in Oxford you either have to travel back and forth or pay your own accommodation nearby.  It sounds like camping is on offer from Brown Envelope Seeds.  Also, since I don’t live in Oxford I’m not really in a position to host a full weekend event in a rural setting like Madeline can do in Ireland, meaning the atmosphere will be different.

The choice is yours.  I’ll certainly be delighted for anyone interested to attend either or both days in the UK, and there are still spaces available.  We’ll certainly have lots of interesting people, as well as things to talk about and do.

Through the sponsorship of Kokopelli Seeds of France and many other hard working people, not the least of which being Lila Towle of Frøsamlerne, Tom Wagner will soon begin his trip through Europe.

Final touches are being put on Tom’s schedule, but already details of the following events have been published (sorry, these are not all in English):

France

Switzerland

Austria

Denmark

Germany

Ireland

Tom will conclude his European tour in Oxford, England where he will attend Oxford 2009, our annual bloggers meeting on the 25th of October and potato breeding workshop the following day.

In all Tom will visit 10 countries over the course of about two months.  When I have some more specific information about his schedule, I’ll try to post some more details.  In the meantime, there’s still space both at our Saturday, October 24th meeting as well as the potato breeding workshop.

Below is a description of the workshops.

Tomato and Potato workshops 2009

Tom Wagner will be holding a series of unique global workshops starting in Europe during September and October 2009.

The venues for the events will take place in France, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, and England. No ONE workshop held will be identical to another. By using the internet and couriers all attendees will be not only able to make work and talk about it, but will be able to modify each other’s work electronically but also on physical pieces of potatoes and tomatoes, especially seeds.

This year, the format for the workshops will change to enable the development of ideas over a longer period. To this end, in September and October this year, there will be mostly weekend events in each location comprising lectures/presentations and informal workshops during which projects will be set to be developed over the following days, months, and even years.

The workshops are open to all but there will be very limited numbers in each location. Anyone who is familiar with past workshops will be aware that we usually try to keep the numbers of participants low so we can enter into meaningful dialogues with everyone on an individual basis. If you want to find out more about the workshops we’ve held before please visit Tom Wagner’s blog site.. http://tater-mater.blogspot.com

As these events will be more complicated than the previous ones there will likely be many questions so I will set up a FAQ page on my website over the coming weeks.

If you are seriously interested in taking part, please email your intention in English, French, German, or Danish, and do try to leave questions that you wish Tom would address.

Some of the topics that will be covered will be:

The history of Tater Mater Seeds

The development of some of Tom’s classic tomatoes such as the Green Zebra, along with dozens of other varieties that are available in the open market.

Tom’s other tomato varieties include Banana Legs, Green Grape, Vintage Vine, Green Sausage, Green Bell Pepper, Lime Green, Schimmeig Creg, Brown Flesh, Verde Claro, Gold and Green, Greenwich and Elberta Girl.

Some of Tom’s potato varieties include Viva el Sol, Adirondacksen, Azul Larga, Awol Dude, Nordic October, Baby Banana, Skagit Valley Gold.

How Tom is rapidly accumulating a large germplasm of potato clones and TPS (True Potato Seed)

Hands on demonstrations of how to cross tomato and potatoes, many times with actual plants and with video and power point presentations.

Tom will talk about how he has taken just a few varieties of potatoes and tomatoes and created a vast diversity of seeds for the future. By using heritage potatoes and tomatoes, and adding some newer releases to cross with, Tom is working with these to create tomorrow’s heirlooms.

Tom will discuss making F-1 hybrids that anyone can make over and over again. He will talk about making backcrosses and taking each year’s seed increase to the filial level of F-5 on tomatoes which indicates a rather stable line. Tom will illustrate how his potato lines have better berry production which aids hybridization efforts.

Tom will talk about the nutriceuticals of tomatoes and potatoes; the essential nutrients that these crop could contain with a bit of breeding expertise. Enhanced antioxidants, anthocyanins, carotenoids, lycopene, are but a few. Fast cooking times in his new potatoes clones that cook in 5 minutes in boiling water will be featured in his topics.

Through a variety of breeder/grower initiatives beginning with the workshops, there will likely be many cooperatives dealing with plant breeding and variety development starting with seeds of Tater Mater.

These workshops will be part of an effort to keep seeds free, legal and available for people to grow in their gardens, farmers to grow on their farms, and not controlled by major seed companies, universities or governments.

A concerted endeavor will be launched to work with local heritage varieties to incorporate them in variety improvement and to avoid GMO’s at all levels.

Potatoes can be grown from true seed and avoid the virus contamination of tuber trades. TPS is but one way to foster diversity and reach local needs for flavor, storability, yields, disease resistance, all with organic growing methods

The workshops will features many ways to look at seed extraction, seed saving, clonal selection.

Single seed descent and bulk population breeding and variety maintenance will be discussed.

The workshops will try to feature local gardens and local growers. The goal is to find ways for this to help Tom in his work and how he can help local growers in return.

Video and audio recording will likely be part of many of these workshops. Some of those may be shown at succeeding workshops to show the growth of the information exchanges. A few clips of how to cross potatoes and tomatoes may be linked to the Tater Mater blog. Many still photos will be shown of his tomato and potato varieties.

Each of these workshops will invite anyone to submit questions to answer during the workshops and/or later in an interactive format. With sufficient interpreters present, these answers will be delivered in the original language.

Workshop fees will go towards Tom’s travel in Europe and to free up important new seeds to be introduced. As Tom devotes more and more of his time to being a seed ambassador of sorts, these fees will help continue his workshops towards the future.

The goal of Tater Mater Seeds is to get young people involved in plant breeding, therefore, if Tom can be a mentor and teacher for many potential plant breeders, justice is done.

During Tom’s 56 years of breeding plants, he has not only proven that anyone can be a home garden plant breeder but will show many how they, too, can be plant breeders. His unique collection of proprietary seeds of tomato and potatoes will be a great resource for plant breeding groups in each nation.

Tom has created hundreds of varieties of tomatoes and potatoes, including potatoes totally resistant to blight. He is presently working with 100,000 lines of potatoes.

Tom started out breeding plants on his family farm near Lancaster, Kansas. He kept a family heirloom bean alive and growing each year in his gardens from a few beans his great grandmother brought to the USA in 1888. He kept growing new selections out of his breeding work even while he obtained degrees in Anthropology, Botany, Geography, and Education. His career includes farming, managing garden centers, managing greenhouses, potato buyer, potato and tomato breeder under contract, teaching, seed catalog, and a wide host of other professions. He has offered many of his creations in Farmers’ Markets and has introduced his varieties to other organic growers.

Tom stays busy with his TaterMaterSeeds forum and is a moderator on the Tomatoville.com for CrossTalk and Potato sub forums.

Tom currently lives in Everett, WA. His plots are all organic and shuns any chemicals applied to the soil.

Tom Wagner
8407 18th Ave. West
7-203
Everett, Washington 98204
Phone +1 425 512-0313
Mobile +1 425 894-1123

Ian is hosting the event at his home in Issigeac, southwest France (near Spain). The cost is €40 per person, but excludes lodging, local transportation, entrance fees to attractions, restaurant meals and some other things as specified on their itinerary.  It includes some home cooked meals, prepared with local and home grown ingredients when available!

The emphasis of the event is to celebrate home grown, local and natural foods and foodways.  The event will include visits to local markets, vineyards and gardens.

This event is part of a series of events around the world promoting kitchen gardening, being promoted and organized by Roger Doiron of Maine, USA who will attend and give a short talk at the event.  Roger runs the non for profit organization Kitchen Gardening International, and it’s associated weblog.  Roger first proposed the idea of a presidential food garden in the White House South Lawn in Washington DC, something that’s now become a reality.

Optionally visitors can extend their stay and visit other places.  A list of suggestions is on their website.  Among the possibilities is a visit to Kokopelli Seeds.

Good access to the area is provided by airports, high speed train and motorway.

Already people have signed up to come from France, Australia and USA.  More people from these or other places would be welcome as long as space remains available.  There will be both English and French speaking people attending, with people available to help with language difficulties.

For more information or to make reservations:

seedsavers@gmail.com (Kate)

kitchengardeninfrance@gmail.com (Ian)

http://afrenchkitchengardenweekend.blogspot.com/

Of course a trip to Washington DC wouldn’t be complete without a visit to The White House.  Here I am standing in front of the south lawn, future home of President Obama’s vegetable garden:

I know a number of garden bloggers and readers live in the DC area, but I was too busy with family matters to try to arrange meetings with anyone else.  Maybe we can try another time.

I have a huge backlog of emails, posts, comments on other blogs and discussion lists, seed orders and additions to the seed network to go through.  Have patience, I’ll get to them all in the coming days.  A few blog posts or discussion forums might have to go without input from me however…

To everyone celebrating holidays in the coming days, Steph and I wish you all the best.

The day following the Oxford bloggers meeting I visited MissHathorn in SE London.  Above is a picture of her allotment complex that overlooks the city (click on the image to enlarge).  This complex has hundreds of plots and, compared to mine which has about 100, seems huge.  Fires aren’t allowed on my complex, and it seemed a little strange seeing all these smoldering fires going.

Steph and I had a wonderful time meeting her and her partner, touring her garden together with her beehive and chicken coop, and visiting her allotment.  We had a wonderful lunch that including honey from her bees and several things from her garden.  I think we all found we had a number of things in common.

The day started off with some coffee and small talk.  Since the weather was so nice we moved outside to give the presentations in the botanic garden itself.  It was really a wonderful setting for the presentations.

Ben from Real Seeds kicked things off with a real eye opening presentation about the history and importance of seed saving.  In the picture you can see him making a timeline.

The recurring theme from Ben is that he wants everyone to save their own seeds.  If you need some seeds to start with, he’s quite happy you buy these from him if you want, but he would really prefer you saved your own seeds so it wasn’t necessary to buy any more.  At the moment business is good, and they don’t really want to expand or sell more seeds.  You can do much more to further the goals of the Real Seed Catalogue by saving your own seed than you can from buying more seeds from them.

Real Seeds has seed saving information on their website, released under a Creative Commons License.  You are welcome to copy and redistribute this information almost any way you want, as long as you don’t charge money for it.

After Ben’s presentation, I talked a bit about my garlic.

The last presentation was Simon (above), who discussed allotment culture and the importance of having a good shed.  His presentation included a mini-quiz game with prizes and a poem.  In all, very enjoyable!

After the presentations we had lunch.  Cat brought a wonderful home made apple pie (with apples from her neighbor), and many others brought samples of things from their gardens.  Ben brought some exploding cucumbers, which we dissected and learned how they worked.

After lunch was the seed exchange.  I had garlic to offer, and many others had self saved seeds.  Kate brought seeds from Wilson in Singapore, as well as from her own garden.  Thank you Wilson!  Ben had exploding cucumber seeds on offer.

We then spent a couple of hours walking around the gardens.  Among other things we saw a number of plants some of us have in our own gardens.  There was an impressive display of Andean tubers, including mashua and yacón.   There were a number of quinoa and amaranth varieties.  There were some heirloom tomatoes in the greenhouse.

Thanks goes out to everyone who took the time to come and make this a complete success!

A special thanks goes out to Ben who travelled from Wales to speak to us, and to Emma who helped with the setup and organization.

You can see posts others made by following the links below:

Daughter of the Soil
Veg Plotting
Spadework
Fluffius Muppetus
Soilman
Manor Stables Vegetable Plot
Hills and Plains Seedsavers
MustardPlaster

Important! Don’t pay the entrance fee at the Botanic Garden.  Just tell them you are there for the Food Growing Bloggers Get-Together.  The entrance fee is included in the price of our room, and I will collect 15 pounds from everyone later to cover our expenses.

There are a few spaces available if anyone still wants to come.  Please email me, leave a comment here or call my mobile number below.  After Thursday it’s safer to call, because I may not have regular access to the Internet as I’ll be traveling.

Tentative Schedule

9:30 – 10:30  Coffee and tea.  Please arrive at this time, and spend a little time chatting with everyone.

10:30 – 11:10  Ben from Real Seeds will give a presetation about seed saving in general and the seeds he sells.

11:15 – 11:30  I will talk a bit about the garlic I’m growing.

11:30 – 11:45  Simon will talk about allotment related things

11:45 – 12:30  Seed swap

12:30 – 1:30  Picnic (indoors if necessary)

1:30 -   5:30  Time to visit the Botanic Garden, or use our room for more coffee and tea.

Route information to the Botaic Garden is here.

My mobile telephone number is:  +31 6 4010 9417

For the picnic, be sure to bring everything you need to eat or drink with (plates, cups, etc).  It also might be handy if you bring something to sit on.  Please try not to bring excess trash, because we are responsible for disposing of our trash ourselves.  We can accommodate a reasonable amount of trash.  Remember to think about bringing things from your garden to share, but don’t worry if you don’t have anything along these lines to offer.

A simple kitchen is available for our use, but we have been asked not to prepare any food there because it is not licensed for catering.  If you need to rinse a few vegetables, need some hot water, or need to do a little washing up afterwards, these should be no problem.

A few people have not yet confirmed.  There is still space if you want to come, but please get in touch first to confirm, because it is still possible we could run out of spaces.  I would also appreciate hearing if you have decided not to come.

People with a * next to their name have confirmed.

Bifurcated Carrots (2)*
MustardPlaster (2)*
Spade Work (1)*
Daughter of the Soil (1)*
The plot thickens (1)*
Joanna’s Food (1)*
Growing Our Own (2)
A Blog Called Fuggles (2)
Veg Plotting (1)*
Soilman’s Allotment Blog (1)*
My Tiny Plot (1)
Manor Stables Veg Plot (2)*
Fluffius Muppetus (1)*
NomeGrown (1)
Hills and Plains (1)*
Speaker: Ben – Real Seeds (1)*