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		<title>By: The Great British Food Fight &#124; Bifurcated Carrots</title>
		<link>http://bifurcatedcarrots.eu/2008/02/bird-flu-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-30280</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great British Food Fight &#124; Bifurcated Carrots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted before a couple of times about bird flu, in 2007 and 2008.  The most important thing to understand about bird flu is the public is being lied to and given a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://bifurcatedcarrots.eu/2008/02/bird-flu-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-6760</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends of mine were in India, in the area affected by bird flu when it hit. Overnight, it seemed, all the edible birds disappeared. We are so lucky in Adelaide, South Australia to have so much beautiful organic food grown on the outskirts of our city and in home gardens. However, governments are doing their best to cover the best land in dense housing full of paving and concrete, smothering the fertile soil that people have spent 200 years using to grow our food. Madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends of mine were in India, in the area affected by bird flu when it hit. Overnight, it seemed, all the edible birds disappeared. We are so lucky in Adelaide, South Australia to have so much beautiful organic food grown on the outskirts of our city and in home gardens. However, governments are doing their best to cover the best land in dense housing full of paving and concrete, smothering the fertile soil that people have spent 200 years using to grow our food. Madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelly,

You know in so many ways the Dutch are ready to &#039;think outside of the box&#039;.  They are very progressive with things like drugs, euthanasia, same sex marriages, environmental issues, you name it.  For some reason when it comes to food the only thing they are interested in is if it&#039;s certified organic.  Their idea of local is going to the supermarket and buying a bag of potatoes that has &#039;Holland&#039; stamped on it.

We have a neighborhood organic farmers market where we buy a lot of our food.  They have meats, cheeses, fruits and veggies.  Holland is a small country, and in one sense that makes them &#039;local&#039;, but as far as I&#039;m aware none of the farmers at this market are from anywhere near Amsterdam.  In addition, AFAIK, none of them give tours or offer any interesting stories about how their food is produced in a natural way.  I rarely see &#039;real&#039; farmers running the stands.  All of the stands buy and sell from other farms, so you never know for sure where your food comes from.  As far as I can see it&#039;s all organic in a certified way, but there is no heart and sole.

The only farmer I know who is a real farmer, someone who I have met him as well as his wife, children, chickens and cows I posted about here:

http://www.patnsteph.net/weblog/?p=229

I almost never eat any eggs except his, and his cheese is really nice and I buy kilos of it every time I see him (he lives pretty far away).  AFAIK, his cows are only fed grass and his chickens only get plants, bugs, household scraps and spoiled cheese from his cows.  He likes old breed animals too, and I&#039;ve seen a number of interesting chickens and cows at his farm.

Most people that live in the neighborhood of this farmer turn their nose up at him.  They think he&#039;s a freak, and his cheese tastes funny.  They just can&#039;t see a good thing when it&#039;s right in front of them.

This farmer is a friend of mine, a regular reader of this blog and we exchange emails from time to time.  He&#039;s having a very hard time financially, and his farm may not survive.

This is the only farmer I know of that makes true organic, handmade, natural food!  He told me about one friend of his who has an organic farm, but it&#039;s not really underway yet and I&#039;m not sure it will really ever get started.

This is one of the main reasons I have my own garden, there is just no other way here!  Mostly there are too many regulations, and the existing farmers have too much political control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelly,</p>
<p>You know in so many ways the Dutch are ready to &#8216;think outside of the box&#8217;.  They are very progressive with things like drugs, euthanasia, same sex marriages, environmental issues, you name it.  For some reason when it comes to food the only thing they are interested in is if it&#8217;s certified organic.  Their idea of local is going to the supermarket and buying a bag of potatoes that has &#8216;Holland&#8217; stamped on it.</p>
<p>We have a neighborhood organic farmers market where we buy a lot of our food.  They have meats, cheeses, fruits and veggies.  Holland is a small country, and in one sense that makes them &#8216;local&#8217;, but as far as I&#8217;m aware none of the farmers at this market are from anywhere near Amsterdam.  In addition, AFAIK, none of them give tours or offer any interesting stories about how their food is produced in a natural way.  I rarely see &#8216;real&#8217; farmers running the stands.  All of the stands buy and sell from other farms, so you never know for sure where your food comes from.  As far as I can see it&#8217;s all organic in a certified way, but there is no heart and sole.</p>
<p>The only farmer I know who is a real farmer, someone who I have met him as well as his wife, children, chickens and cows I posted about here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patnsteph.net/weblog/?p=229" rel="nofollow">http://www.patnsteph.net/weblog/?p=229</a></p>
<p>I almost never eat any eggs except his, and his cheese is really nice and I buy kilos of it every time I see him (he lives pretty far away).  AFAIK, his cows are only fed grass and his chickens only get plants, bugs, household scraps and spoiled cheese from his cows.  He likes old breed animals too, and I&#8217;ve seen a number of interesting chickens and cows at his farm.</p>
<p>Most people that live in the neighborhood of this farmer turn their nose up at him.  They think he&#8217;s a freak, and his cheese tastes funny.  They just can&#8217;t see a good thing when it&#8217;s right in front of them.</p>
<p>This farmer is a friend of mine, a regular reader of this blog and we exchange emails from time to time.  He&#8217;s having a very hard time financially, and his farm may not survive.</p>
<p>This is the only farmer I know of that makes true organic, handmade, natural food!  He told me about one friend of his who has an organic farm, but it&#8217;s not really underway yet and I&#8217;m not sure it will really ever get started.</p>
<p>This is one of the main reasons I have my own garden, there is just no other way here!  Mostly there are too many regulations, and the existing farmers have too much political control.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://bifurcatedcarrots.eu/2008/02/bird-flu-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-6714</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the States the &quot;Buy Local&quot; movement is slowly taking shape. I know that there are some resources on the internet for folks looking to locate local farmers to buy their meat and produce from. 

I remember reading something about raising chickens from Hedgewizard who lives in the UK. Just from what he was able to share, it seems that European policies on raising your own can be rather tight. What have you found in your experience to be the best way to obtain good healthy food?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the States the &#8220;Buy Local&#8221; movement is slowly taking shape. I know that there are some resources on the internet for folks looking to locate local farmers to buy their meat and produce from. </p>
<p>I remember reading something about raising chickens from Hedgewizard who lives in the UK. Just from what he was able to share, it seems that European policies on raising your own can be rather tight. What have you found in your experience to be the best way to obtain good healthy food?</p>
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